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16/07/2019 11:14 am  

Good article. A couple points. I agree that the mission dictates it.

The aimpoint  pro is solid but it’s a bit heavy. I like the smaller micro sights. My close in setup is light and a pinned 14.7 ( not a fan of short barreled boomsticks due to sound and flash. )

The trijicon acog is not my top choice  due to the fiber. hard to adjust brightness outdoors and issues indoors with a light. Right now the best I can find that fits my needs is the 3x vortex prism.

My longer distance is the Vx-R patrol

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16/07/2019 9:05 pm  
Posted by: @robby

Good article. A couple points. I agree that the mission dictates it.

The aimpoint  pro is solid but it’s a bit heavy. I like the smaller micro sights. My close in setup is light and a pinned 14.7 ( not a fan of short barreled boomsticks due to sound and flash. )

The trijicon acog is not my top choice  due to the fiber. hard to adjust brightness outdoors and issues indoors with a light. Right now the best I can find that fits my needs is the 3x vortex prism.

My longer distance is the Vx-R patrol

I totally see where you're coming from. I picked the PRO mainly out of cost reasons. I like the smaller sights as well, but the cost is significantly more. If the TA33 ACOG had the LED illumination of my TA110, it would be near perfect. But as it is, I picked that class of optic for mainly outdoor use anyway, but your point is well made.

The VX-R for a Class III is a good choice, though!

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16/07/2019 10:07 pm  

Right now I run LPVO but am looking at putting a PRO on one of my rifles.... I acquired an EoTech on a trade but have found I don't like it.

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17/07/2019 9:45 am  

My PRO owns the HD rifle role, and I wouldn't hesitate to get another.  I find as far as ACOGs go, I find the TA50 is really starting to win out over the TA31 in my opinion.

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17/07/2019 9:46 am  

My PRO owns the HD rifle role, and I wouldn't hesitate to get another.  I find as far as ACOGs go, I find the TA50 is really starting to win out over the TA31 in my opinion.

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03/09/2019 12:01 pm  

Help me choose an optic.

 New shooter, zombie victim not fighter;  old eyes; heavy smoker so not interested  in full battle gear; tight budget.

 Mission:  skill with my new rifle,  target use mostly, I see a rifle as a distance tool.  Limited hunting, practical  25 to 300 yards  am I better served by a fixed power prism or a 1x(6) variable?


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03/09/2019 2:40 pm  

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Budget? I know you said tight budget, but it’s an important factor.

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03/09/2019 10:31 pm  

Top is 400


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04/09/2019 8:14 am  

The new Holosun optics have been getting good press & reviews.  American Defense offers the 503GU with a qd mount for a good price.  Its at the top my my list once I get some work done to my rifles.    Its only 1x so if you need magnification you'll have to look elsewhere.

https://www.americandefensemanufacturing.com/view/product/1436/


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04/09/2019 9:25 am  

@ilya would be really good at answering this, but I suggest checking out the Leupold Patrol VX-R or seeing if you can find a used SWFA 1-4 or 1-6 on the market.

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04/09/2019 10:30 am  

@bdover

Thank you.  Red/green dots are  great I recently got to play with a 4moa dot it's fast, easy. But I'm looking for magnification.


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04/09/2019 10:34 am  

@matt

Thanks.  So you lean more to LPVO?


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04/09/2019 11:25 am  

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It depends, really. You mentioned eyesight was slipping, so I typically rule out red dots due to issues with blurry dots and no magnification. Fixed power optics are good, but I honestly don’t like most of them below the $800 price point.

The LPVO market is not, which means there a lot of good competition. You’re more likely to find suitable options there for the price bracket you’re looking at. Again, ILya might have some other recommendations I haven’t thought of, though.

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04/09/2019 12:12 pm  

@czfan10101

fair enough.  I've got a trijicon accupower for a lpvo in 1-4.  If you shop them around you can find them for 400ish used.  I have the green segmented circle which for me preforms kind of like an eotech (circle-dot).

If you have a hard ceiling for price point I'd try to find an older model from one of the big names.  Typically they're not as light or have less magnification, but they're usually still a valid option.


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11/09/2019 10:54 pm  
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@czfan10101

It depends, really. You mentioned eyesight was slipping, so I typically rule out red dots due to issues with blurry dots and no magnification. Fixed power optics are good, but I honestly don’t like most of them below the $800 price point.

The LPVO market is not, which means there a lot of good competition. You’re more likely to find suitable options there for the price bracket you’re looking at. Again, ILya might have some other recommendations I haven’t thought of, though.

I am kinda late to this discussion, sorry.

Honestly, $400 is a little tight, but your best bet in that range is Burris RT-6 1-6x24.  It is a surprisingly nice scope that usually runs around $350.  I generally use very nice stuff, but I also own the RT-6.  There is a reason for it.

If you manage to find Steiner P4Xi 1-4x24 near your price range, it is better than RT-6 on 1x and has a much brighter dot.  For you use, 4x or 6x on low end does not make all that much difference.

Matt is right to be cautious with red dot sights.  They are designed for young eyes.

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12/09/2019 12:58 pm  
  • Thank you. Primary Arms, & Vortex seem to be all the rage on you tube.  I like quality tools and can be a snob about it but, I am not ready for tier 1  gear.  (Yet).  I hadn't considered Burris, and thought Steiner out of my reach.
  •  PS like the Jordon Peterson quote

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  • Thank you. Primary Arms, & Vortex seem to be all the rage on you tube.  I like quality tools and can be a snob about it but, I am not ready for tier 1  gear.  (Yet).  I hadn't considered Burris, and thought Steiner out of my reach.
  •  PS like the Jordon Peterson quote

I am not a huge PA fan.  They are a perfectly reasonable company, but I have mixed feelings about a lot of their stuff and I am not convinced they do any QC in house, which is a problem when everythign is OEM'ed out.

Vortex does make some fairly high end stuff in house and they have the ability to QC everything in house if they are so inclined.  I've visited them and it is a seriously impressive facility.

With Vortex, the good stuff starts with PST Gen 2 and goes on up to the Razor and Golden Eagle.  I use their AMF 6-24x50 and UH-1 holographic sight.

Strike Eagle is very underwhelming, IMO.

Fairly inexpensive Diamondback and Diamondback Tactical are actually quite decent, but there are no LPVOs in the product line.

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