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20/05/2019 9:13 pm  

Alright, time to talk about drills. Layout some of your favorites. Be sure to share success criteria as well as any tips and tricks you've got.

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21/05/2019 6:26 am  

So this first one is my go to for pistol sessions. It's great for a warm-up or a finisher at the end of a session.

https://pistol-training.com/drills/dot-torture

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27/05/2019 6:50 pm  

Dot torture is always a good one.

Baer has some warmup and drills that I like
https://baersolutionsllc.com/freetargets

Lucky Gunner 5x5
5 shots on 5" target under 5 secs
http://loungecdn.luckygunner.com/lounge/media/5x5-drill-1.pdf

The Test
10 shots on B-5 target at 10 yds

Two different scoring methods outlined in the link
https://www.firearmrack.com/power-drills-the-test/

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28/05/2019 6:47 am  

@beo The forum won't let you post links like that for now. If you email them to me, I'll be happy to edit your post and insert them.

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28/05/2019 7:09 pm  

Is there a way to private message you on the board or do I have to do real email? haha


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28/05/2019 8:06 pm  
Posted by: Beo

Is there a way to private message you on the board or do I have to do real email? haha

I haven't set up PM's yet, sorry. You can use the contact page as well, that goes right to my email.

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29/05/2019 7:32 am  

@beo Updated, thanks for sending

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04/06/2019 10:26 am  

Dot Torture and the Lucky Gunner 5x5 are great!

I also like these drills:

- Consistency Drill from Guerilla Approach - www.guerrillaapproach.com/product/consistency-target-free/

-  The Federal Air Marshall Qualification - www.shootingillustrated.com/articles/2019/3/11/federal-air-marshal-qualification-test-your-ccw-skills/

And I recently read about this series of drills from Mike Seeklander that I want to try out, seems like a well rounded test:

Four Drill Series -  www.shooting-performance.com/four-key-systematic-drills-for-handgun-skill-developement/

Anyone have any good rifle drills?

edit: removed URL errors and just pasted the text of the web address for each drill

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05/06/2019 9:10 am  

I have 2 thoughts on Dot Torture.

#1: Dot Torture, as I understand it, is not a drill.  It is a diagnostic tool.  That's why there are so many dots, and it works so many individual skills.  It was created as a way for a person with a single piece of copy paper and 9 feet of space to figure out where he/she is lacking and then go focus on that.  It has too many reps and too many individual skills to be effective at building any one shooter's skill, but it will definitely show you where you're lacking.  Shoot it regularly so you can see where you can improve, and then use actual drills to improve in those areas.

#2: Scale it to 2x or 2.5x and it becomes suitable for rifles starting at about 10 yards.  The above still applies.

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10/06/2019 7:57 am  

@mtxw

For rifle I like the Appleseed AQT , all offhand at 25 yds for rifle drill.   Makes me focus on the basics.    The reduced size are pretty difficult when shooting offhand.    Also, by shooting all offhand at 25 yds you can shoot it at indoor ranges.


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23/06/2019 12:56 pm  
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@mtxw

For rifle I like the Appleseed AQT , all offhand at 25 yds for rifle drill.   Makes me focus on the basics.    The reduced size are pretty difficult when shooting offhand.    Also, by shooting all offhand at 25 yds you can shoot it at indoor ranges.

Wow, can you do that on the smaller targets, offhand?  I've heard of very rare folks doing it but they're very rare.  I can do ok on the 1st stage of that from standing (and using a hasty sling, not sure I'd do well at all without that), but of course that's the largest "100 yard" target also.  I'm not sure I want to see what me shooting at the smaller ones offhand would look like.  Shooting the 200-400 targets from per "the rules  of the game" positions (sitting, prone, and slow-fire prone) is fairly challenging...


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24/06/2019 9:41 pm  

Well after having a crazy past two weeks I am back....and I have been compiling a list of drills that I have come across so I will just mention a few.

1) If one wants to work on precision with a rife but only has a short range tacticalprofessor has one on his website called "scaled target rifle qualification" (published 02-10-2019).

2) Greg Ellifritz has a whole bunch of drills he did, if you look into the 2018 archives. He has one called "Handgun Combatives 'FYFO' Drill" which looks super challenging.

@matt maybe we could compile a cloud to upload the target so that one could print it off directly from a cloud?... since we all know you are looking for more things to do 😛

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25/06/2019 6:06 am  

That’s not a bad idea, honestly. There are a few ways to handle it. I was planning on just hosting them at the site. We could assemble them into short articles to explain the drill and then make it part of a series.

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25/06/2019 10:00 pm  

My go to rifle drills are any of the Defoor Performance Rifle Tests.

These are the ones I practice most:

Defoor Proformance Rifle Test 1 Target: NRA-B8 Minimum Score: 270 pts

Time Limit: 3 mins Starting at the 75yd line

Run to the 100yd line, 10 rds prone. Run to the 75yd line, 8 rds kneeling. Run to the 50yd line, 6 rds standing. Run to the 25yd line, 4 rds standing. Run to the 12yd line, 2 rds standing.

Defoor Proformance Rifle Test 2 Target: IPSC Target Time Limit: 1 min A-zone, 5 pts - C-zone, 3 pts - D-zone, Not Counted Passing score on body is 16 pts.  All four head shots must on head, with at least two in upper A-zone box.

Starting at the 50yd line

Run to the 100yd line, 2 rds kneeling to body. Run to the 50yd line, 2 rds standing to body. Run to the 25yd line, 2 rds standing to the head. Run to the 10yd line, 2 rds standing to the head.

Defoor Proformance Rifle Test 3 Target: SR-42 Minimum Score: 80 pts Time Limit: 2 mins

Starting at the 100yd line

Run to the 200yd line, 2 rds prone. Run to the 100yd line, 2 rds kneeling. Run to the 50yd line, 2 rds standing. Run to the 25yd line, 2 rds standing. Run to the 10yd line, 2 rds standing.

I'll mix them up with different targets, different shooting positions, use of barricades or cover, and mix in weapon transitions and reloads.

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02/07/2019 4:02 pm  

The one I like is start at 100 yards prone. Shoot 5

run 25 sitting 5 more. ( or kneeling I learned it from a Russian they sit squat  )

run 25 offhand 5 more.

Run 25 transition to pistol  5 more

run back

to makes it harder wear a rucksack  , plates whatever to increase intensity

it’s very similar to a martial arts drill in learned decades ago we did on the beach near the Navy-Marine bases in San Diego  we went to the beach and did front kicks alternating legs kicking until the whistle was blown moving forward all the time.  then side kicks , then back kicks ended with forward rolls

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15/07/2019 2:07 pm  

PEW has some good down loadable drills and targets for pistol and rifle. DOT TORTURE is a great diagnostic, can't call it a drill.  Go to  YOU TUBE Crockett had some good drills specifically one for warm up  a series of  dots  each row you concentrate on a specific skill, grip, sight alignment, trigger, cadence.


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15/09/2019 2:36 pm  

I just found out about The Humbler. Anyone try it?

Humbler (700 Point Aggregate)

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15/09/2019 4:29 pm  

@pete

Oh, that's a nice one!

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