Buckle in, because I’m about to talk nerdy to you. This post is all about the two most common marksmanship measurement systems, how to use them, and which one you should use.

Be warned, I will be dropping some math on you. I’ll be gentle, though.

## Angular Measurement

The first thing you need to let go of is thinking in terms of linear measurement. Both of these systems are methods of measuring angles. More specifically, we are measuring the angles from the sighting device to a target. We then use these angles to estimate linear measurement.

What kind of things do we use these angles for?

- Measuring the distance to target
- Determining the size of a target
- Dialing the amount of drop for a bullet at a distance
- Adjusting the impact of a bullet due to wind

Those last two points aren’t actually measuring anything. Sure, you could turn those angular adjustments into a linear value, like saying the bullet will drop 14 inches at 400 yards, but it’s ultimately not all that useful for you in actual marksmanship.

But let’s step back. What do I mean when I say we are thinking in terms of angles?

### It All Comes Back to the Circle

The easiest way to imagine this is with a compass.

If you remember geometry from back in the day, you recall that there are 360 degrees in a circle. Our compass also has 360 degrees, represented as

You probably remember using protractors in school. These devices helped you measure the angles of two joining lines in degrees.

If you look at this animation, the angle is 115 degrees. We can do all sorts of geometry to figure out the distance between the ends of each green line. But the real trick is being able to change the length of those lines and quickly recalculate the third leg of the triangle.

Here is a visual version of what I’m talking about.

The red line in this diagram is

Everything relies on the geometry of arcs, which is a key element of shooting.

## Minutes of Angle

Here’s where things get more complicated.

The distance between two adjacent degree markers is very small. If you drew lines one degree apart, things diverge pretty slowly. Using the circle diagram above, imagine a dotted line from the center of the circle to the center of the red line, that would be 10 feet.

At that distance, the red line would only be two inches long.

If we extend the dotted line all the way out to 100 yards, the red line grows to about five feet long. It’s over 50 feet long at 1000 yards.

Well, now you see the conundrum. For marksmanship, a full degree of divergence is simply too large to be useful. We need to further divide that degree. Like a clock, we divide that degree into 60 evenly distributed *minutes* of angle.

### Doing the Math

Let’s assume our target is 100 yards away. I’m setting my scientific calculator to degree mode. I’ll press “tangent,” then input 1/60 and multiply it by 100. Multiply that result by 36 to convert from yards to inches.

**Tangent(1/60) * 100 * 36 = 1.047″**

1 MOA = 1.047″ at 100 yards, or 10.47″ at 1000 yards.

This is a much more useful accuracy measurement and is easy to convert in your head. A lot of shooters just round it off to 1 inch. In the past, you might have seen optics marked with IPHY, which means “Inches Per Hundred Yards.” This is a bit more old-school but represented a rounding of 1.047″ to just 1″ in the optic. I don’t see optics that still use IPHY, but we often still talk like it. The Army even still teaches it.

### Using MOA with Rifles

Historically, rifle sights that adjusted in 1 MOA increments were very common. Both the M1 Garand and the M14 had irons that adjusted for both elevation and windage in 1 MOA increments. The M16A2 rear sight was the same, at least for elevation.

To get even more accurate, we can further subdivide those *minutes *of angle into 60 *seconds* of angle. Whereas a minute of angle is 1/60th of a degree, a second of angle is a mere 1/3600th of a degree.

A single second of a degree is a bit *too fine* for practical use, so we machine our optics and sights to jump several seconds at a time. The most common are 30 seconds and 15 seconds per click, otherwise known as 1/2 MOA and 1/4 MOA.

## Milliradians

So far, I’ve talked only about taking the 360 degrees of a circle and dividing it into smaller segments. But there is another way to measure circles beside degrees.

A *radian* is a way to measure the arc of a circle. Specifically, a single radian (shown as *rad) *is a segment of the circumference of a circle equivalent to the radius (shown as r) of the circle. Half of the circle is π*r, and the whole circle is 2π*r.

This graphic shows it better than I explain it:

When we talk about *milliradians, *we are taking 1/1000th of a single radian. We often abbreviate milliradian as MRAD or mil. Riflescopes that used this measurement system often had dots spaced at MRAD intervals, we call these *mil-dots.*

### Doing the Math

Let’s do some back-of-the-napkin math to figure out some distance equivalents.

Once again, let’s assume our target is 100 yards away.

I’m going to set my scientific calculator to radian mode and press “tangent.” Then I’ll multiply .001, for 1/1000th, by 100, the distance to the target.

Next, multiply that result by 36, which converts my result from yards to inches.

**Tangent(.001)*100*36 = 3.6000012″**

That’s the dirty way of saying that one MRAD is about 3.6 inches at 100 yards. It’s not exact, just like one minute of angle isn’t a perfect 1″, but it’s close enough to work with.

The convenient part about this is that if you multiply that by 10, it’s 36 inches at 1000 yards. **One milliradian equals one yard at 1000 yards**. A six-foot object at 1000 yards measures two

Here’s the neat thing about mils, though: the system doesn’t care what linear measurement you use. Angle math is funny like that. Let’s use 100 *meters* instead, and multiply by 10 to get centimeters.

**Tangent(.001)*100*10 = 10.00335 cm**

With this, you see that one mil equals about 10 centimeters at 100 meters away. Or, alternatively, 1 meter at a distance of 1000 meters.

**Tangent(.001)*1000 = 1 m**

All this is well and good, but let’s look back at that 3.6″ at 100 yards number. That’s too coarse for good accuracy out of a rifle. But, like with MOA, we subdivide MRAD. Most commonly, we make adjustments in 1/10th of an MRAD per click, or .36″ per click at 100 yards.

## Milliradians vs Minutes of Angle for Marksmanship

There’s a common misconception among American shooters that MRAD is a metric-based system and MOA is imperial-based. I understand where that comes from since meters and centimeters work so cleanly with the MRAD system. In reality, that’s a happy coincidence of using a system based on multiplying or dividing by 10.

The same math worked to show that one mil equals one yard at 1000 yards. The complicating factor is that one yard contains 36 inches, which isn’t easily divisible.

Another way to look at this is ratios. A milliradian work on a 1:1000 ratio. If something is 1 inch tall and measures 1 mil in your optic, then it’s 1000 inches away. If it’s 1 yard tall, it’s 1000 yards away.

1 angstrom measures 1 mil tall in the scope, then it’s 1000 angstroms away. Mils are 1:1000, always.

MOA works on a ratio of 1:3438

So which is better? Well, that depends on your point of view.

### Adjustment Increments

The most common adjustment interval for an MRAD-based sighting system is 1/10th of a mil per click. At 100 yards, that’s .36″ or just under 1 centimeter.

The most common adjustment for MOA-based sighting systems is 1/4 MOA per click. At 100 yards, that’s .25″ per click of adjustment. I’ve seen some optics that go even finer than that, offering 1/8 MOA per click.

If you’re looking purely from a precision perspective, then Minutes of angle win here because they are a finer adjustment method. But that doesn’t tell the whole story, there’s more to this math than adjusting your scope.

### Mils vs MOA for Ranging

One of the classic “killer features” for both milliradians and minutes of angle is the ability to use them for determining range and holdover. Now, using your reticle to determine range is a bit of an old-school skill, especially in an era of affordable laser rangefinders. But I find the math interesting, so let’s go there.

By reversing the tangent formulas I presented earlier, you can use the known size of a target and what it measures within your scope to find the range to the target.

#### MOA Formulas

These formulas are used for determining the

Something important to note for each of these. The multiplier number is often rounded. The first one, for finding yards given inches, says to multiply by 100. A lot of people use 95.5 as the multiplier number instead, which is closer to the actual value of 95.28.

Here’s the thing, though: yes, precision in the math is important. Rounding errors are still errors that compound over distance. These deviations become very significant at very long range. But at practical distances most people tend to shoot, it’s within the natural deviation of the rifle and ammunition accuracy anyway.

You’ll notice the 3438 and 34.38 on these last two. Recall that that’s the ratio I mentioned earlier with minutes of angle 1:3438. You’re seeing it come up because those last two use the metric system and it’s nice round 10-based numbers.

The random 87.3 you see on the second formula comes from converting inches to meters. It’s the result of dividing 3438 by 39.37, the number of inches in a meter.

#### Milliradian Formulas

These formulas do the same thing but utilize a mil-based reticle for the measurement. Again, a lot of these multiplier numbers are rounded and you see some oddball numbers coming from the imperial system. The 27.8 comes from dividing 1000 by 36, for 36 inches per yard. The 25.4 comes from dividing 1000 by 39.37, the number of inches per meter.

#### Takeaways

Ok, I’m done with the math for now. The takeaway here is that mils are significantly easier to do the math with, especially if you’re combining it with the metric system that works in powers of 10.

That said, I highly doubt any serious shooter would ever be whipping out a calculator in the field to run these formulas. If they didn’t have a laser rangefinder, then a tool like the Mildot Master makes short work of it.

The ability to correctly range a target is vital to actually hitting the target. The Precision Rifle Blog did a study where they gauged the importance of correct ranging on distant targets and the results are clear. Even a little ranging error will cause a miss, and using your reticle to range a target introduces far more margin of error.

### Mils vs MOA for Communication

This is where the distinction between linear measurement and angular measurement gets important.

Let’s say you take three shots at a target placed 650 yards away. You hit the paper, but miss the x ring a little high and right. Your shooting buddy is looking through a spotting scope to give you a correction. There are three ways to communicate this:

- “You need to come down a little lower and to the left.”
- “I think you should come down twelve inches and adjust ten inches to the left .”
- “Adjust down .5 mil and left .4 mil”

When it comes to precision shooting, the first method is almost useless. So let’s ignore that one.

The second method at least has numbers in it. How the spotter would actually know to come down twelve inches a to the left ten inches is another story. But assuming he’s right, we could figure it out in our head using some rounding. At 650 yards, 1 MOA is *roughly *6 inches. So you figure that you need to come down 2 MOA and left 1.75.

With that method, you’d be closer. But the rounding errors are starting to add up. That rough 6 inches is actually 6.8 inches, so your actual adjustment is less than you thought. What happens if you don’t actually know the distance to the target? Well, then you’re back to option number one.

The third method is ideal, though. Your spotter looks at the target with his reticle and measures the offset of the shots as he sees it. The linear measurement doesn’t matter, because you already have the angle. If the spotter says to move .5 mil, then you simply dial .5 mil of adjustment on your optic.

#### So Which is Easier?

In practice, either an MRAD-based scope or MOA-based scope will work the same way. Both the spotter and the shooter can measure the required adjustment and communicate.

So, for me, it comes down to the numbers involved.

Look at this ballistic chart I compiled for a Berger 175gr .308 projectile firing at 2650 FPS.

Compare the mil numbers and MOA numbers for both drop and windage. Both represent the same amount of linear drop at each distance. When you consider that milliradian-based scopes adjust in .1 increments, it’s very easy to identify how many clicks of adjustment you need for each of those distances.

For MOA, you’re dealing with larger numbers as well as rounding errors. Most MOA scopes adjust in .25 MOA increment. If I said you need to come down 17.9 MOA, is that closer to 17.75 or 18 MOA?

You also have to do more math in your head. How many clicks is 32.7 MOA?

For mils, how many clicks is 13 mils?

They’re the same amount, 130. How much longer did it take you to figure that out with MOA?

MRAD takes it here for ease of use.

### MOA vs Mil-dot Optics

I’m not going to spend a lot of time here. The truth is that both systems work well for optics. Look at these reticles designated EBR-2C by Vortex Optics.

Both of these are perfectly usable. That is, as long as the turret of the optic work in the same system as the reticle.

Up until fairly recently, a lot of American rifle scopes had mil-dot reticles but MOA turret adjustment. We call that mil/MOA. There is no good reason to do that to yourself.

To work with ths, it requires more math. You need a conversion factor of 3.43, which is the rounded version of 3438 divided by 1000 (the two ratios representative of each system).

Put it this way:

**Scenario #1**: You take a shot and watch the impact in the reticle, measuring it as 1.8 mils high. To convert that into minutes of angle, you multiply 1.8 x 3.43 and get 6.174 MOA. Divide 6.174 by .25 (MOA per click), and get 24.696. Now you adjust the elevation turret 24 or 25 clicks.

**Scenario #2**: You’re now using a mil/mil scope and take another shot. You measure the impact as 2.3 mils to the right. Move the decimal one place to the right (the result of multiplying by 10) and you get 23. Adjust the elevation turret 23 clicks.

**Scenario #3**: Someone handed you a MOA/MOA optic. You fire and measure the impact as 17.9 MOA low. Divide 17.9 by .25 and you get 71.6. Adjust the elevation turret 72 clicks.

Which of those is the most convenient?

Whichever system you choose, buy a scope with matching reticle and turret sub-tensions.

## Wrapping Up

Hopefully you now have a good understanding of these two angular measurement systems. This was a lot of fairly technical information, with plenty of math.

The takeaway I want you to have is that when it comes to mils vs MOA, neither system is absolutely superior to the other. They both have their perks depending on what you need to do with it.

Minutes of Angle are an easy way to teach someone the basics if you’re sticking to the imperial system, but it does end up being more difficult to work with later on. A minute of angle is a more precise unit of measurement when you’re trying to squeeze maximum accuracy.

Milliradians are super convenient to use with the 10-based metric system. It also works with inches and yards with a little bit of math.

The real benefit to MRAD is that it’s faster to communicate and make adjustments. The 10-based math makes calculations significantly quicker.

The final thing to keep in mind is that it’s not all about you. Consider what those around you are also using. If you are shooting PRS matches and get teamed with a bunch of guys using mil-based optics, it’s going to be *much *easier to communicate if you’re using the same.

Otherwise, you’ll be doing lots of math to translate between the two systems.

### Over to You

So which system between milliradians and minutes of angle is your preference? Let me know in the comments.

Ow, my head hurts. I hate math. Especially having to do it in my head, on the fly, under time pressure.

I’ve been using MOA for so long that I “see” in minutes, and holdover/holdoff or adjustments are almost automatic.

On the other hand, I just dug out an AR scope I bought years ago and finally mounted it on my AR. Guess what, it’s in mils. Going to have to learn something new I guess.

Not gonna lie, doing the math quickly is hard. Most precision rifle courses I’ve seen say to bring along a calculator for that very reason. It’s also the reason I advocate for tools like the Mildot Master, which take the math out of it.

https://www.everydaymarksman.co/equipment/mildot-master/

Excellent article. Going to print this out, laminate it, and it’s going in the range bag.

Thanks, I’m glad you liked it. What part do you want to put in the range bag? The formulas? Perhaps I could work up some kind of printable just for that purpose.

The formulas mostly. Typically when I need this stuff I put it on 3×5 notecards, laminate them them put them on a ring to flip through when I’m prone.

Hmmm, good to know. Let me see what I can work up for you

Thank you so much for detail in easy words We hope more good info in futher once again thank you

for us in Europe and metric system MRAD is first choice as intuitive.

Already being familiar with metric certainly does make it easier!

I like your article…

I like the easy math with the MILS, however my shooting partner uses a Mil Dot scope and I plan on shooting PRC matches…the BIG catch here is, I have not purchased my scope yet….hows that for a fix…no, I’m not going to but two scopes.

My first comment I meant to say MOA scope…that my shooting partner uses.

Hi Michael, thanks for asking! So if I’m reading this right (with the correction), your partner is using a MOA scope and you’re deciding what to do yourself? If you plan on always shooting with that person as a spotter, then it makes sense to do the same for yourself. The math I listed up in this article is all about ranging targets with the reticle and such, but you actually don’t do that with precision rifle matches. If you listen to my interview with Mike Keenan, he told me that match directors often provide the distance to targets for… Read more »

thanks Matt,

The group I have been shooting with, we have been shooting for over 20 years, and some of us wanted to improve our skill set. after calling some of them, I’ll go with the MOA…they seem to be in agreement. The good thing is that my close shooting partner and I both shoot 300 win mag, so at least that part will be easy as I will be hand loading the rounds.

thanks again Matt.